- Approximate cost of services:
- $800.00
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Emergency AC Repair and Furnace Tune-up DO NOT RECOMMEND
Hello Ivan ... in response to your review and the several inaccuracies in it ... We attended your house Nov 1 2017 for a tuneup, and you wanted advise on wiring for the thermostat, which needed a wire added (per work order 5804). Our technician was concerned about the safety and state of your 20+ year old furnace, noting that parts were worn and it was likely to fail. This was why he talked to you about getting a new furnace. He spent a lot of time talking to you and going through your furnace, even making a diagram of it and the plenum. Notes that the technician made on the work order (which you received/signed) indicate that both the ventor motor and sealed bearings were worn, which he discovered as he cleaned your furnace. At the time of the precision tune up the carbon monoxide levels were acceptable, but then the furnace ran for another full winter and, as predicted, continued to fail. If the furnace had a crack and carbon monoxide levels were unacceptable at the time of the tune up, then a red tag, forcing the unit to be turned off, would have immediately been issued by our technician. It appears that 8 months later you did have to replace the furnace as parts did fail (possibly causing the problem with your AC, see below) - I understand you got a new furnace within the last week or so. I am sorry you feel that a technician advising that a failing, 20+ year old furnace should be replaced was somehow a "disingenuous sense that we are looking out for your best interests as a sales tactic", but it was his best professional opinion, one which turned out to be absolutely true. We do many, many furnace and air conditioner tune ups, and very few are referred for replacement.
Regarding the call on Sunday July 1st (Canada Day Holiday, 40+ degrees out, original call received after 5:00PM), you sent the message that "the blower isn't working and there is water leaking from the furnace". We attended the next day (Holiday Monday) and found that the blower motor (which is in your furnace, see above) failed, causing your AC coil to freeze and the TX valve needed replacing. I am not sure why you are saying we "abruptly started ripping things apart". We were called to investigate, and we had to disassemble the equipment to trace back what had gone wrong and to allow the air to get at the wet, damaged parts. That is what we were called to do. Then you claim we did no work.
This wasn't a diagnosis over the phone as you state, as evidenced by the hand written cheque dated July 2nd you gave to the technician when he was at your house. You say that we charged you $200 .. this isn't true, you were charged $150 for coming to your house on a holiday, investigating the cause of the problem ("ripping things apart") and diagnosing the fix, and ordering replacement equipment. Your cheque is for $169.50 (which is $150 plus $19.50 tax as shown on your work order, which also identified what went wrong and what parts needed replacing). As the 2nd was the holiday Monday and all suppliers are closed, parts were ordered on the 3rd, and we called you on the 4th when the parts were in. You didn't return the call and posted this review the next day.
On reviewing your file it appears that the technician did everything properly, gave correct advise, responded in a reasonable time frame, and worked at all times in your best interests.
Letter sent to homeowner:
On Feb 2 we attended and the service diagnostic found that the Olson oil furnace needed a new board as a result of the batteries leaking and corroding the terminals on the thermostat. As the thermostat was corroded the technician recommended that the thermostat should be replaced with a wifi stat because it had desired feature. At that time, you were accepting of the wifi thermostat. The reason given was that it was requested to give peace of mind when your family is away as you could check the status of your heating and cooling systems, and as there was a rebate through GreenOn program. It was installed a week later with the heat pump, so there was ample time to change your mind.
We also diagnosed that the heat pump required an outdoor temperature sensor (not a flame sensor … not sure if this was on the invoice done up at the office, but if so the terminology was incorrect). Diagnostic $150
On Feb 5 the board for the Olson was installed. ($287.50 for the board $190 labour) You have asked for this money back under warranty, but the Olson furnace warranty has expired.
On Feb 9 we returned to install the heat pump sensor, which had arrived from the distributor. The sensor for the heat pump should have been covered under parts warranty, so we will refund the $83.97 for the part.
We also installed the Ecobee thermostat at this time ($425.)
Feb 23 we received another no heat call. The bad vent safety switch on the Olson was replaced. Diagnostic fee ($95) and labour to replace the part (190) and the part itself (77.22) for a total of $409.31 (still outstanding). This furnace is not under warranty. At this time someone asked the technician to check the heat pump operation, which was done. The pump was operating to specification, but he left the gauges.
The total billed to you, including tax was ($1498.91 + $409.31) for a total of $1908.22.
The amount you have paid is $1498.91.
The amount we are returning is the sensor ($83.97 plus tax is $94.89) for the heat pump part, plus $1405.72 billed to you by the other company for refrigerant and checking the work done, for a total of $1500.61.
Calculating the difference, $1500.61 less the amount owed ($1908.22 - $1498.91 = $409.31) leaves us with a balance owing you of $1091.30. Enclosed please find a cheque for that amount.
Again we apologize for the problem with the gauges. As the technician who checked the equipment has confirmed that all equipment is now running properly, we hope that you get many more years of service out of the equipment you have.
Substandard Unprofessional Installation
Hello Ken. When the issue of the brown water was brought to our attention we did offer 3 appointment day and times (including Saturday) which were not convenient for you. We subsequently offered you three different times for a visit, again none of these were convenient. You did agree to another day and time, and we attended at that time and made some changes which have resolved your issue.
We suggested that you talk to the place that you purchased the water heater from because as a consumer that is what I would do. As we did not have the owners manual, we didn't know that that was what it recommended. As we didn't supply the tank if there was an issue with warranty we would not have been able to process it or register that there was a problem.
Regarding the pressure relief discharge line, it was correctly installed according to the current code book. In fact the code states that the relief valve MUST end between 5 to 12" from the floor.
Regarding your comments about the possibility of getting scalded, the water temperature for the tankless system is set according to Canadian and municipality safety guidelines. Your water temperature has been set according to those guidelines, so scalding is extremely unlikely. The water temperature that would come out of the tank is the same temperature that would come out of your taps. The water temperature in the conventional tank that you had prior to this tankless system would have been set to 140 in order to control bacteria, but the tankless system we installed is set to 120 (factory settings) because there is no standing water and so the required set temperature point is lower.
Your old water tank was returned on your behalf to the depot in Whitby in December (prior to you writing this review). Please let us know if there is anything we can do to help if Enercare continues to bill you.
Your floors were swept up ... in fact the sales person returned personally to do this because you asked the technician to sweep your entire basement, but refused to let him use your broom to do this because you have an "upstairs broom" that you said can't be used in the basement.
As a small, family run company, we stand behind our customers by making things right, wherever possible, if you are not happy. I believe the problem you were experiencing has been resolved, and I hope that I have address all of the concerns you have raised here. If there are any outstanding issues, please don't hesitate to contact me at the office at 905.428.0146 and I will do my best to make sure that they are addressed.
Thanks, Christine
Furnace Tune-up & Honest Opinion on my 17 Year Furnace
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Brown's Home Heating and A/C
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Brown's Home Heating and A/C
Had a Heater Installed, then changed to a furnace
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Brown's Home Heating and A/C
Hello Gord, and thank you for your business. We are so happy that your experience with Brown's was positive. If you have any questions or concerns please don't hesitate to contact us.
Needed and New A/C unit and new Furnace Air Cleaner
Hello there ... We understand that you were not happy with the work that was done at your house and we did return to fix the problems. We have dealt with the technician responsible for your original install and that situation should never happen again in the future. We apologize for the inconvenience that was caused and if there is any outstanding mess would be happy to return and make whatever changes/cleaning is required. Please feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions or unresolved issues. Regards, Christine